This show is a conversation with a female serious video game player. Eva Murzyn, who is originally from Poland, completed her PhD at the University of Dundee in the United Kingdom. Her research on individual differences in black and white dreaming, and their relationship with black and white media. In part this research interest emerged from her own experiences with media and especially with video game play. Eva not only plays the online massively multiplayer game, World of Warcraft (WoW), but she is a long time player of face to face reality role playing games such as Dungeons and Dragons. It is this combination of role playing games online and off with her doctoral work on media effects on dream content that make her a informed participant-observer in the world of video games and their effects on our reality perceptions. You’ll find out that not only did she use her imaginal practice in self defense to actually save herself from a real world robbery but the other advantages of such play. I chatted with her at the recent meeting of the International Association for the Study of Dreams in the Netherlands.