his show consists of a thought experiment: imagine we are not machines but spiritual creatures, beings of light and energy. Einstein said that matter is really condensed, slowed-down energy, but imagine that the source of the energy comes from an internal wellspring, not from the forces of nature. If this is true, then dying can be viewed as the dissipation of energy as we wander off-course from our inner, true navigation system. Philip’s guest this week is one of the country’s top spiritual leaders, Temple Hayes, author of the book, When Did You Die? 8 Steps to Stop Dying Every Day and Start Waking Up. On this show Philip and Temple have an entertaining conversation about how, if we put our “whole self in,” aging is still inevitable, but growing old becomes optional.