The early scientists, represented by Issac Newton, were mesmerized by the magic of reality. They studied the heavens and discovered a clockwork universe, one operating according to the laws of mathematics. Bedazzled by this physical world, they then formulated theory after theory describing the movement of the clockwork-like world. But then these scientists separated the world from themselves and viewed it as a foreign object; and the magic was lost. But then some modern thinkers looked elsewhere and found the magic in the mind. Today’s guest, Tom Evans, host of the popular podcast, The Zone Show, has written a new book, New Magic for a New Era, that gives a refreshed perspective on the magic of the world, which is also the magic of the mind.