Holograms have always bedazzled the mind. First invented in 1947, holograms are man-made mirages, formed by mirrors and lasers, that mimic the appearance of physical reality. In the late 20th century, cosmologists began using the holographic model as a metaphor to explain the universe. Under this view, the fundamental stuff of the cosmos is not matter but information; information that somehow expresses itself in the form of the physical world. In her new book, Cosmic Hologram: In-formation at the Center of Creation, this week’s guest, Jude Currivan, goes farther: might the hologram model be the one that unites science with spirituality? Listen in as Philip and Jude explore this and all sorts of other mind-opening topics.