The Vatican just issued an official papal order stating that American nuns focus too much on helping the poor instead of raising their voices against gay marriage and abortion…But what are the real motivations behind this papal order? Aren’t nuns supposed to work toward social justice?

And even if, in an alternate universe, nuns did choose to support abortion in certain circumstances — and support gay rights along with it — is that really wrong? Is the Vatican relying on outdated Biblical interpretations that no longer ring true? In this week’s show Cece and Mark get you the answers to these controversial questions and more from former Catholic priest Phil Cioppa. Don’t miss out – press play now.