Thank you, listeners, for your following. I am taking a break in my scheduling for a bit. In this segment, Laura Simko, dear friend, fellow Imagery International Board member and writer, asks me about my interest and work around self-forgiveness. I hope you enjoy listening to our conversation. It has truly been a pleasure sharing wonderful guests with you and getting your kind feedback. Please feel free to scroll through the archives of all of the Emotional Pathways shows and listen at your leisure. I am deeply grateful to Brad Saul, Lorna Gladstone and Brian Matos and the entire team at Matrix Media and webtalkradio.net for making this show possible. You may always find me at Antioch University Santa Barbara, the Seaside Therapy Center or on my other website. Many warm wishes to you.